everlastingsoul | Suikoden IV stuff

Finally finished Suikoden IV. Thoughts are under the cut.

There's a very ... unpolished feeling to the ending. There are some questions that I have that I'm hoping will be addressed in Rhapsodia. Such as...

1.) Who the heck is Troy and what exactly is so special about him? Child of the Sea God? Huh?
2.) Where did Colton and Helmut disappear to?
3.) Is the prince of Obel still alive?
4.) Did Troy die? If so, that was quite possibly the stupidest "dramatic" death I have ever, ever seen in a video game.

I was amused to see such blatant references to the other Suikoden games, such as ancestors of Camille and Maximilian, Reinbach's presence, and Cedric's "True Holy Rune." If Schtolteheim Reinbach III became a "classic hero" because of Micky's stories, I can only imagine what Milich Oppenheimer's stories will lead to for him.

Detachment party: Kika, Akaghi, Mizuki, Kate
Final party: Roan (hero), Snowe, Helmut, Ted

Ted's kinda a given, with Soul Eater... Snowe was a friggin' tank once I buffed him up. Helmut seemed to be one of the more well-rounded characters in the game, so he was a welcome addition for Rune Unites... The giant tree was a stupid, stupid boss. And friggin' easy. I just threw Fury and Double-Strike Runes on Snowe and let him and the hero go at 'im with True Friends Attack. Quickest final boss I've fought since ... Atelier Iris. >_> Helmut and Ted were almost unnecessary for that battle.

Favorite characters of the game: Helmut, Colton, Kika, Nalkul, Snowe. Troy would make the list if I actually knew something about him.

Unsurprisingly, certain aspects of the game have left me with ideas. I see absolutely no pairings in this game, though. It's ... very weird.

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"I am Kim. Of 2 homes of 7 Moms." -- Castle of Shikigami II

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Sigurd/Hervey = OTP.

AMEN.

I really liked Helmut and his relationship with Colton. All fifteen seconds we saw of it.

I think that was the only thing I was utterly surprised by in the game. Pleasantly surprised, too.

Yeah. It was just so well-handled - very subtle, very quiet, and yet at the same time you really got a sense of what it was like.

I found that Suikoden IV had a decided lack of those little grace notes that made so many of the earlier games so delightful. That's why I didn't like it so much. Well, that and the severe lack of interesting characters.

I've never been especially drawn towards the Chiki/Chimou Stars dynamic. =P

Me neither, but I like these two together. Especially with the Keen thing.

I had almost the same final party, except I had Katarina instead of Helmut. And um... there are those theorizing that Hero is the prince of Obel. :/

I'd played with the idea before, but I just ... don't see any resemblance between the hero and the Obel royalty. *scratches head*

Two of those questions, at least, are answered in the game, or at least have enough information presented in the game.

Troy's nickname "Child of the Sea God" was given for his major destruction of Razril and Gaien ships at a very young age (mid-teens, if my math works right) in command of a Kooluk fleet. He became like the Teo McDohl of Kooluk - everyone knew him and what he was capable of, and he became feared by the enemies because of how well he could do it.

As for the prince of Obel living, I shall pose another question - did you get all 108 stars? If so, that question should be answered if you watch the entire ending... ... Of course you have all 108 stars. You have Snowe. Duh to me. It's not so much theory as fact - it's not established directly in the game, like so many of the other details in the game, but mentioned elsewhere. I need to try and remember what all the sources are... -_-

So there's nothing inherently supernatural about the title? His speech on the ship just gave me this unsettling feeling of "This isn't really death for him. He wouldn't say he would fight the hero again on the sea if he had accepted he would die, right?"

Well, I guess they wouldn't bring up prince of Obel so late in the game unless he would play a role, right? *scratches head* So I'm guessing the exact happenings of that "Vanishing Village" is also left out of the game? I read on SARS that that was where Graham Cray's son died and where Cray cut off his arm, but they barely mention in-game.

Troy accepted his death as he knew that Kooluk was losing this fight and wouldn't be able to mount against the power of the Island Nations combined, or at least that's how it seemed, though. He was loyal to Kooluk and refused to accept the power of the True Runes. I think he saw that his time was over and that he didn't stand much of a chance. As the game and information presents him, no there's nothing supernatural about the title, but the way he shows capabilities of fighting on the sea gave him that title; he could fight as if he were actually the child of the sea god.

It's not in the game, but the Noble Hunt and Vanishing Village are indeed related to Cray's son's death. Cray cut off his arm to escape the curse, and the Rune took the child as a host - perhaps punishment for trying to escape the curse? The child used the Rune to burn all the members of the Scarlet Moon Empire who had come on the hunt, and pretty much wiped out the village doing so. Cray is the only known survivor.

Troy was yummy... still not sure what the point of his death was, though.

The prince of Obel's definitely alive...

Snowe was surprisingly useful toward the end. His unite with the hero saved me quite a few times.

I see absolutely no pairings in this game, though. It's ... very weird.

YOU JUST AREN'T LOOKING DEEPLY ENOUGH. (http://www.livejournal.com/users/el_regrs/93039.html)

*laughs at the list* I guess most of those make sense... Snowe/Jewel is kinda cute. And Troy/Helmut... Never even thought of it, but it sound quite hot.

...

Dammit.

~~Nothing beats Lo Hak/Pam's buns~~

Actually, I couldn't think of reasons behind half of those other than, "Well, they're friends... or friendly acquaintances?" Though there's no denying the prettiness of some.

The phantom Jess~ (Who doesn't know how to use a damned LJ tag. <.>)

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Best (Only?) Troy/Helmut evah, but sadly there's not much...

And I must thank you, phantom Jess, for appeasing my senses with that link to Aru's lovely writing. I trust the hunt for good yaoi is never over, hmm?

*wanders off to beat down ideas of Troy/Helmut*

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