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[everlastingsoul]

Waiting for my parents to come up now. Final went well; I was out about 20 minutes before the testing time was over. I'm a little uncomfortable about being so general with the copyright section, but I'm hoping to make up for it with the lists in the essay.

Decided to go back through my Silverberg drabble collection to begin reasoning out why things happen as they do.


The Eightfold and Conqueror Runes
I reasoned that the Conqueror Rune (also known as Black Rune) was a lower house rune of the Eightfold/Eight-Devil True Rune mainly because of Yuber's presence. In Suikoden I, Milich and Kasim, and even Ted, have Conqueror Runes that manipulate them and, if I remember correctly, allow them to summon monsters. We already know that the Pale Gate Rune is a lower house rune of the Gate Rune, so I was skeptical to place such a different rune like the Conqueror Rune with the Pale Gate. In Suikoden II and III, we see that Yuber is capable of summoning monsters and control them in much the same way the Conqueror Rune does, so that was my pretty obvious reason for the connection.

As for Albert, Luc, and Sarah all have Conqueror Runes for the duration of Suikoden III... Well. This is speculation based on actual in-game stuff. The Eightfold Rune is embedded on Yuber's left hand. Luc and Sarah both don't wear runes on their left hand. And we see Albert, Sarah, and I believe Luc all summon monsters during the game. (Yes, even Albert. He summons a beastmaster to teleport away in the Ceremonial Site.) Now, you could make the argument that Sarah can summon monsters by herself, but Albert? Magic researcher and instructor he may be (Tutor skill level C), but random monster summoner? Nope. Not without demonic help.

George Silverberg not in Scarlet Moon during the Gate Rune Wars
Well, to be fair, George Silverberg probably didn't exist at all during Suikoden I, but I decided to give a reason as to why he wouldn't have been involved in the war. The only way that he would not get involved in the war with his father and cousins already entangled in it would be for him to have not been in the country at all.

You could also make the argument that George was a terrible enough strategist (or not a strategist at all) that no one would want to recruit him, but I don't think Leon would approve. If Leon took the time to shape Mathiu into a strategist, why would he shrug off his own son?

Caesar as the next patriarch
Well, in the storyline, Albert's dead by the time Leon passes the title, but I think Caesar would remain the patriarch even if Albert was alive, provided Albert remains the way he is. Why? Caesar is quite obviously more morally-driven than Albert, and I don't believe Leon, for all of his paradigms and general aloofness, would want someone as selfish as Albert as the head of the family.

Comments

[pansiest-bishop.livejournal.com]

All three points make a great deal of sense, although I sorta disagree on part of the first. When I went through the whole Geddoe Loses His Rune Ohnoes scene, Luc says it's a technique he learned from his mentor, and Sarah apparently has odd powers in general, so I'm not sure they'd need black runes and I think they'd avoid it if at all possible. ^^; Especially since Luc's well aware of what they do. Albert, on the other hand, I can completely see with one. He's the one who summoned Yuber after all, and I agree on the point of him summoning the monster.

As for the second, yeah, I highly doubt Leon would be so attentive to his nephew and not his own son. I think it was simply a matter of them saying "Ohshits we need more Silverbergs and Mathiu and Odessa are too dead to make any. DX"

[karthur.livejournal.com]

Totally agree with you on #1. :)

[kanaza.livejournal.com]

The problem with the first point is that we don't know what the domain of the Eightfold/Hachifusa/Yafusa Rune is. Personally, I think the Black Rune/Conqueror Rune is more likely to be related to the Sovereign Rune than it.

The reason that Luc did not have a left-hand rune is because, well, he had a right hand True Rune and the Blue/Pale Gate Rune on his forehead--and he hardly needed more than that, did he? ;) I'll concede the point to Sarah, but I still think it was a coincidence. Also, you can give them runes on their left hands in their chapter, so.

As for Albert summoning monsters? I don't think that was what happened. It seemed to me that the monster was already there when New FC, Caesar and Co. showed up; it just came out of hiding. I haven't seen the scene in a while, though, so maybe I should rewatch it. (And for all we know, Albert bribed the monster with CANDY and SEX. ;))

[daathic.livejournal.com]

True about the Eightfold Rune. We can only speculate about it, but that's the fun part about fan theories. ^^ Only part that doesn't seem to fit connecting the Sovereign and Conqueror Runes is the fact that the Conqueror Rune allowed its bearer to summon monsters, which was the basis of the theory.

One of my friends gave a good reason why the theory wouldn't apply to Luc and Sarah, but those are valid points, too. XD

As for Albert summoning monsters? I don't think that was what happened. It seemed to me that the monster was already there when New FC, Caesar and Co. showed up; it just came out of hiding. I haven't seen the scene in a while, though, so maybe I should rewatch it. (And for all we know, Albert bribed the monster with CANDY and SEX. ;))

Well, even if the monster was there beforehand, there still has to be enough of an understanding between the monster and Albert for it to actually teleport Albert away. Could be because Yuber ordered it to, could be because Albert sells his body to monsters in his free time (*snerk*), but again, speculation. I'm more sold to the idea that summoning Yuber implies more than giving him the opportunity to seek chaos and destruction.